both in the same city. i found that really hard to believe. >> well, he said it was more complicated than that. there were arrangements made. there had been previous contact and suggestions of meetings. she hadn't shown up. you know, it's also not the easiest thing in the world for a kid who is living in hawaii over the summer, back in indiana, necessarily to get to southern california where he thought she was. but i think the big picture here really, anderson, it comes down to this. either you believe that he was one of the perpetrators of this hoax, that he was behind it, and then the little lies don't matter. or you believe that he wasn't, and then the little lies, again, don't really matter because he would be the victim, and he simply is saving face. >> although you could also argue he did kind of realize this is helping him in his career, and so even if he thought, okay, maybe there's something weird here, he used this to, and he used the media to kind of propel this and perpetuate this idea that he l